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@unwriter, is this where community interest should self-regulate. E.g., Should folks just choose to unfollow@calvinayre to help disincentivize his retention of that handle? Meaning, if he has no followers, is not really easily "discover"able (e.g., drop him from top to near bottom of ranking), etc. - then handing over to Calvin (paymail address notwithstanding - haven't read into that much) for a couple hundred $ would seem like a good return. Meanwhile, people would follow the real Calvin Ayre using whatever handle he chooses. Basically, let's not reward bad actors. Overall, I think this troll is doing a service by forcing this issue to be considered early on. In the macro, this really ultimately comes down to identity management I imagine. If BSV is going to be the "law & order" blockchain to some degree... tying identity to profiles, transactions is just a matter of time. Exchanges are basically there. Wallets not far behind. Faster this gets to a less pseudonymous environment - probably the faster it gets to BSV end state. Not sure, no coffee yet this morning!
There are multiple angles to this. Users can own their usernames but they shouldn't try to sell the username on this platform, and they shouldn't impersonate others. In case of Moneybutton, the moneybutton company itself created the namespace market so it's fine, but in our case we never said that's OK. In fact I publicly said it's not OK to do so. We are working on a proper terms of service for this.
benjamin tipped:
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1 year ago
calvinayre replied:
All that you said was that you "do not encourage" sale of usernames. Though I secured this username (fairly) with the intention to sell it to Calvin, I made a public offer for sale only after he expressed his desire to buy MY username via Twitter. And, if Calvin was aggrieved by my use of his profile picture, he can seek legal recourse against me and claim compensation (but not my username, which is completely outside this issue). I'm a lawyer myself and I can handle that. Claiming this to be a free, open, public and non-exclusive platform and censoring my account at the request of a billionaire and not through court action/order isn't fair and is bigoted. But, to follow me or not is really up to the users and I don't really care.@unwriter
calvinayre replied:
I signed up to this platform without signing any terms or conditions. I'll sign them once they are ready. But, legally speaking, these terms and conditions you're working on can never have retrospective effect and you (@unwriter) don't get to decide what's impersonation and what's not. That's for the court to decide.
unwriter replied:
i'm not censoring your account dude, you are still here exercising your freedom of speech. i'll just put up a proper terms of service that properly puts into word what i just said, and you can either agree to it or disagree to it. if you are a lawyer yourself, you will probably find it reasonable since you understand how these things are normally handled. Also it's not just you i'm doing this for, there are many other users who are trying to sell accounts so I am simply setting the rules straight. You are just one of many.
calvinayre tipped:
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1 year ago
calvinayre replied:
I signed up to this platform without signing any terms or conditions. I'll sign them once they are ready. But, legally speaking, these terms and conditions you're working on can never have retrospective effect and you don't get to decide what's impersonation and what's not. That's for the court to decide.@unwriter
calvinayre replied:
Thanks, man. 🙏
Another option (viable to those wealthy enough to have a fleet of attorneys at their call) is to have everyone tip the fake calvin some $ and then the real Calvin could sue the fake calvin for profiteering off his identity (even if he took the avatar down, his name recognition in this space makes the intention clear)... then the fake calvin. Don't really like this line of thought... just thinking out loud (dangerous, I know!).
This isn't just an issue for celebrities. Celebrities feel special and think they deserve the right to their name more than other people. But what if your name is John Smith and there are thousands of Johns Smiths... You have no right to@JohnSmith over any other person out there. The real solution is to not have user defined IDs but instead just a number for your id, and you can pick whatever display name you want.
benjamin tipped:
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1 year ago
benjamin replied:
Makes sense at the surface. Seems like@unwriter would have considered that though? @unwriter - thoughts?
Already tested w/ self-tip. Now, just testing w/ self-comment.